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PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its not that one with the UCN pole dancers is it?........



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what I call "active" amino's.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3GZvM_ooYU


Now....I say again...Is movement important ? .....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is if you're 'small fry'
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....or you are a live bait....

Whats the most universally successful and instant fish bait ?

I would suggest maggot.....And what,in essence,are Maggots?

Chitin covered bags of free amino acids...

They dont need to be a specific shape or colour....and dont need
added "Rhubarb & Custard" essence.

They have exactly the right credentials,nothing needs changing or
adding to........and if that where not enough....they move.

We as carp anglers can learn a lot from the Maggot...UCN have.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your boilies 'jiggle' then Pete :?: Nice trick fella! LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No...Pete's bait do not "jiggle".....but neither do they try to
re-invent the Ark.

There are components that would facilitate "jiggling"....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Luci..

The Acai Berry, good Brazilian export, but not useful for what I am doing.. It does however possess some interesting qualities... that I do not need at present... I do, at times, wonder where your mind takes you in relation to bait.. especially when you look at opiate peptides.... LOL

Electroreception? :) Alka seltza.. the only good use in fishing I have found is in Sea Angling as Seagull bait wrapped in bread.... Mwraahaha

Interesting link..

http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/gen...picreview/bp/1biochem/amino2.html

Interesting comparison to maggotts.. very apt.. I find the references to boilies confusing as to most people, boilies are round and boiled, with no particular regard to their content or signals.. boilies are just a convenient way to present a signal.. whatever that signal may be.. carp will not avoid a boilie, just a signal it gives out... LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

indeed Pete, but do certain signals attract some and repel others m8?

Will one bait cover all
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alkaloidal.....

Stimulatory....

Addiction ....

I could name names....but I'm not going to.

People are so easily shocked......Call me a crackpot....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok crackpot
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mind-Expanders ...and I dont just mean for fish....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cripes!

I am well aware where you coming from, just not sure where you are going? LOL

Have you considered the cost? LOL
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alkaloids .....Hemp.....Peanut Skin....etc..etc..

Cheap ...

Not my style though.....higher thoughts...

Carp have Dopamine receptors......or do they?.....
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: poppies Reply with quote

Are we going down the poppy route now??? cripes! cripes! cripes!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hello dean :)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short Amino Acid Sequences....typically 4-8

You are thinking of Opium I assume.

Opioid Peptides are mimicking agents,found within Wheat, Milk
and Diary Products....and as Endorphin,quite naturally,in humans.

Amongst other properties they can influence food intake..

UCN know all about peptides surely? .......
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Amongst other properties they can influence food intake"

Maybe... in humans.. not particularly useful in a fishing bait though... cripes!

I take it you are referring to substances such as Casomorphins.. LOL
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the one in Milk.....they are diverse however.....there is
even one in Spinach....
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep...Rubiscolin... still of naff all use in a bait... LOL LOL
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So...you are saying Opioid Peptides are of no value in carp bait... ?

Okaaay.......



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