carpcruncher
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YIDOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooocome on the yids 
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robvford
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what are the yids?
by the way....i dont like football, rugby, hockey or basketball......or any sport really 
maybe a bit of baseball.....but i dont think ive ever watched a game
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maple
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YIDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo
happy days    
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JAFFA
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Made up for ya Maple and once they all settle Ramos will certainly have a team to challenge next year.
kind regards Jeff
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PeteB
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I take it that Spurs won??? not overly interested, but mildly amused if the chelski lost..... One down... three to fail at... 
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maple
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cheers jeff your obviously a proper "football supporter "
it was a good game and ramos has made a big difference , thank god we never payed the ultimate price for robbos free kick mistake 
phewwwwwwwwwww
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rav
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come on you spurs. get in there, 9 years waiting. very well deserved.
and and thank god we never payed the price for Zakora's, shall we say, backpass. Lol.
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charlie
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yids 2 hairdressers 1 ... COME ON YOU SPURS
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MACCA
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that was amazing i was soo happy when that whistle went
come on the yidsssssssssssssss
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fullylove007
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Look at all the spurs fans one little pointless trophy ( mickey mouse cup ) and now your furture is all bright and your be challengeing for all cups yh right .
WHAT HAPPEN TO YOUR TEAM AGAINST BIRMINGHAM AND YOU THOUGHT THINGS HAD CHANGE
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Steve Howard
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I think that Birmingham proved how far the yids have to go to be considered a decent outfit.
'consistency' is what the yids don't have, and one flukey result means nowt... spuds have proved that! 
only having a couple of decent players doesn't make spuds a threat to challenge for major honours... you'll not escape your mid-table mediocrity yet awhile 
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fullylove007
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Well said steve
since the birminham game they have all stop posting on here and gone quiet again
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maple
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haha comrades yes we played large poo against the brums , and for sure we have a long way to go , but come the summer , the dead meat will be gone and fresh will come in , so at worst we have a bit of silver , you silly boys choose to knock it as a worthless cup , because you lost , you would sure as hell have been crowing about it , if you had one , but you never did you you was beat fair and square , and before you chip in with your normal one sided crap , look how many goal we could have had , not how lucky one of them was , dont forget robbo gifted you a goal
oh yes , and do you know what , this was your only real chance of siverware this year ,
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Steve Howard
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Well, it was certainly your only chance Paul
Glad you enjoyed winning it m8, but please don't think its upsetting to me that chelsea lost it, after all, what would us beating the yiddos (AGAIN) really mean? - We do it all the time m8
It would have hurt losing to a decent team, a rival like Arse or Manure, but spuds? - naah
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maple
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enjoy it steve , corr i should say so m8
it came just in time lol as the memory was just beginning to fade
hey if nothing ,we yids are the most loyal fans in the world , or is that suffering 
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Steve Howard
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No worries m8, happy for you that it actually 'means' something to you... its far better that a team who actually 'wanted' it won it, rather that the likes of (disrespectful) Manure & Arse who put their reserves in all the time
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JAFFA
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Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors. Same as Villa will next year.
Steve, our teams have won "jack" this year. Something the Spurs fans can gloat about buddy....And rightfully so.....Is football not about the fans anymore?
kind regards Jeff
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fullylove007
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| JAFFA wrote: | Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors. Same as Villa will next year.
Steve, our teams have won "jack" this year. Something the Spurs fans can gloat about buddy....And rightfully so.....Is football not about the fans anymore?
kind regards Jeff |
Aston villa and totenham wont be challenging for any major trophys next season because of one word MONEY.
man.u and chelsea always have money
Arsenal have just made record profits
liverpool have money and will probably get more if they get a new owner
so as much as villa and spurs will improve the big four will keep getting better and richer
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Steve Howard
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| JAFFA wrote: | | Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors. Same as Villa will next year. |
Erm, didn't you say that last year? 
| JAFFA wrote: | | Steve, our teams have won "jack" this year. Something the Spurs fans can gloat about buddy....And rightfully so.....Is football not about the fans anymore? |
I don't think that's what you said last year, when Chelsea won it
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Steve Howard
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| fullylove007 wrote: |
Aston villa and totenham wont be challenging for any major trophys next season because of one word MONEY.
man.u and chelsea always have money
Arsenal have just made record profits
liverpool have money and will probably get more if they get a new owner
so as much as villa and spurs will improve the big four will keep getting better and richer |
You're spot on there fullylove007... that was one of the things I always despised manure for... every time it looked like 'their' crown was being challenged, they'd simply go out and spend more money to keep the monotonous monopoly going... its a proven formula, but manure fans don't see it that way, they are blind to it and think they 'deserve' praise for buying the trophies
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JAFFA
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Steve our teams have won JACK so far this year....Fact.....Mine as well as yours. Thats not to say they wont, but they ain't so far.
Spurs have and thats an awful lot more than any other team have so far this season
They are still in the UEFA cup, now no predictions here, but they "could" well win it and that would make two for the season. Even if they dont Steve, that still makes em the PROUD winners of a bit of silverware and in my books that is something for the fans of the club to crow about.
Steve just remember this buddy. My team may well win nothing this season and your team also.....Spurs have a trophy in the bag already
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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| Steve Howard wrote: | | JAFFA wrote: | | Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors. Same as Villa will next year. |
Erm, didn't you say that last year?
| JAFFA wrote: | | Steve, our teams have won "jack" this year. Something the Spurs fans can gloat about buddy....And rightfully so.....Is football not about the fans anymore? |
I don't think that's what you said last year, when Chelsea won it |
Erm, what has anything you've said got to do with anything I said Jeff
I happen to know from last year that 'one in the bag' feels good, and I also happen to know it was nice to take a second trophy... IF, 'our teams' win jack (a point you are labouring ) so what?
I'm a Chelsea fan, and will be delighted if we do pick up a trophy, or two, and ecstatic if we got all three, but I HOPE, not EXPECT m8
The EUFA cup means absolutely squat to me, my team isn't in it, and nor is yours, or any of the TOP teams, if spuds win it, and it means something to their fans, good luck to 'em I say, but other than that, I can't understand your point?
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JAFFA
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| Steve Howard wrote: | | fullylove007 wrote: |
Aston villa and totenham wont be challenging for any major trophys next season because of one word MONEY.
man.u and chelsea always have money
Arsenal have just made record profits
liverpool have money and will probably get more if they get a new owner
so as much as villa and spurs will improve the big four will keep getting better and richer |
You're spot on there fullylove007... that was one of the things I always despised manure for... every time it looked like 'their' crown was being challenged, they'd simply go out and spend more money to keep the monotonous monopoly going... its a proven formula, but manure fans don't see it that way, they are blind to it and think they 'deserve' praise for buying the trophies |
Steve I have never ever said my team does not spend and spend big. They do and both history and facts prove that. What I have always said is this though. Over many year our fortune has been amassed and earnt. You do not get to be the biggest and one of the richest in the world, by the route of a rich sugar daddy
Now who actually reads whos postings.
Mr Loverman and Steve......I have actually said this.
"Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors."......."Same as Villa will next year. "
Steve as you well know I tipped Spurs to come second in the league this year, they wont.....But they have won a cup so far this year and thats a dam site more than United or Chelsea have won so far.......
We only have 3 major honours in this country. League, FA cup and League cup. Spurs already have one and our two teams "might" end up empty handed.
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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| Quote: | | Steve I have never ever said my team does not spend and spend big. They do and both history and facts prove that. What I have always said is this though. Over many year our fortune has been amassed and earnt. You do not get to be the biggest and one of the richest in the world, by the route of a rich sugar daddy |
No, and as I said, man u fans don't accept the fact that they have monopolised things to get still more wealth - as I said - "every time it looked like 'their' crown was being challenged, they'd simply go out and spend more money to keep the monotonous monopoly going... its a proven formula, but manure fans don't see it that way, they are blind to it and think they 'deserve' praise for buying the trophies"
| Quote: | Mr Loverman and Steve......I have actually said this.
"Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors."......."Same as Villa will next year. " |
I ignored that bit before simply because I really don't care what spurs 'might' do next year
| Quote: | | But they have won a cup so far this year and thats a dam site more than United or Chelsea have won so far |
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Yes, I read that bit, and still maintain that it matters not one iota to me what spuds have won, or will win... I don't give a flying fox buddy. fact.
| Quote: | | We only have 3 major honours in this country. League, FA cup and League cup. Spurs already have one and our two teams "might" end up empty handed. |
And again, like I said, I don't care at all what spuds have, or may win, i ONLY care about Chelsea, and HOPE that they might win a trophy, I don't EXPECT anything, unlike manure fans who seem to feel they have that divine right.
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fullylove007
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Love the way that us chelsea and man.u fans have completely taken over the tottenham topic.
i agree with what the both of you are saying but i think we can all agree that tottenham winning that cup was a one off because chelsea were messed up behind the scences. and until there is a european champions league where all major clubs are invovled and are moved from the league they are in now, the big four will dominant english football.
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Steve Howard
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Jeff, football is nothing more than a glorified game of monopoly - the more, and better 'houses' you can afford, the more you can dominate and monopolise the game.
United enjoyed a bit of success and used the money from that to buy still more success, simple fact m8
The ONLY way things 'could' ever be 'fair', is if all teams had their spending capped, but that won't ever happen. in the meantime, unless united are challenged by an equal spending power, they'll continue to win things...
'Money' wins things, and always has done, and QPR (the richest club in the world) will be challenging your lot for 'your' crown in a couple of years too but unless spuds and villa can compete financially, they won't be competing for the major trophies very often
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JAFFA
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| fullylove007 wrote: | Love the way that us chelsea and man.u fans have completely taken over the tottenham topic.
i agree with what the both of you are saying but i think we can all agree that tottenham winning that cup was a one off because chelsea were messed up behind the scences. and until there is a european champions league where all major clubs are invovled and are moved from the league they are in now, the big four will dominant english football. |
Well you may well agree, but I dont!
I think there will be two teams that will have the potential to challenge for one of THREE MAJOR UK TROPHIES, in years to come. I will add a further team to the mix ONCE they settle and the manager has brought his players in.
Villa, Everton and eventually Spurs, will always be a threat to pick up a honour. And the threat will grow and grow as there squads and financial position improves.
| Quote: | | but i think we can all agree that tottenham winning that cup was a one off because chelsea were messed up behind the scences. |
More blue excuses and to be honest and ones that purely do not hold water. Every team has a squad and every team has exactly the same chance of injuries. Most teams that suffer the worst or most amount of injuries do not favour so well over the period of the season. But we are constantly reminded that your team are unbeaten at home for 4 years!. Now a blind man can see, that despite the FACT you have suffered some appalling injuries stats, backroom unrest, players away in Africa, your team are still up there challenging on 3 out of 4 fronts. So not one of these excuses hold any water to be honest.
The fact of the matter is a plain as the nose on the face of all NONE blue supporters.
You did not compete!, you were sub standard! and Spurs wanted it far more than the blues did!
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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| JAFFA wrote: |
I think there will be two teams that will have the potential to challenge for one of THREE MAJOR UK TROPHIES, in years to come. I will add a further team to the mix ONCE they settle and the manager has brought his players in.
Villa, Everton and eventually Spurs, will always be a threat to pick up a honour. And the threat will grow and grow as there squads and financial position improves. |
A cup, maybe, league title, definitely not m8... Spurs proved nothing, just that lesser teams can win on the day, but we all know that already.
| JAFFA wrote: |
More blue excuses and to be honest and ones that purely do not hold water. Every team has a squad and every team has exactly the same chance of injuries. Most teams that suffer the worst or most amount of injuries do not favour so well over the period of the season. But we are constantly reminded that your team are unbeaten at home for 4 years!. Now a blind man can see, that despite the FACT you have suffered some appalling injuries stats, backroom unrest, players away in Africa, your team are still up there challenging on 3 out of 4 fronts. So not one of these excuses hold any water to be honest. |
You missed the point, he was referring to the behind the scenes disruption, unrest and arguments, that basically handed the cup to spuds.
| JAFFA wrote: | The fact of the matter is a plain as the nose on the face of all NONE blue supporters.
You did not compete!, you were sub standard! and Spurs wanted it far more than the blues did! |
Jeff, I know you're a secret spud, but give it a rest eh buddy! Is this what you keep pressing your points to hear?
NO we didn't compete
YES we were sub standard (not in our normal form)
and OF COURSE spuds wanted it more than we did... they are a DESPERATE team!
But please don't get too carried away m8, if none of the above had happened on the day, spuds wouldn't have won it, even with the luck they enjoyed, pure and simple, they are an inferior team and one result means absolutely squat, as pleasing as it might be for their fans... and you, obviously
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justin
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I notice the mighty Villa have been pulled into this thread therefore i have to post, Please show some respect when typing the name in it is ASTON VILLA or MIGHTY VILLA, and don't worry we are just building up to premiership domination, so by that when we win we should get the manure supporters with us for the glory
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JAFFA
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Steve I reckon I must be a secret Spurs fan and just about every other team that kicks a football . In fact I would say your spot on
Maybe thats my let down really. I see a post about Spurs and as a true fan of football, I felt I had something to offer. Obviously I was wrong buddy.
Ho hum buddy, not to worry
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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There ya go again, trying to claim the moral high-ground with yer "true fan of football" etc...
Jeff, let me just say this, mate.
I'm totally at ease with spuds winning the cup, its a cup that matters very little in the grand scheme of things as you yourself have said previously, and your team, and plenty of other teams have indicated the fact by the manner in which they approach the cup...
Now, in my mind, you are simply trying to bolster its importance here to suit your argument - not only because spuds won it, but more importantly for you, that chelsea didn't...
As I said previously, spuds fans will revel in winning that cup, and beating Chelsea to win it may have made it all the sweeter for them, but ask me if I 'care'... I really don't, and as I've said a few times here, "Good luck to 'em"
What I don't understand is your dogged persistance buddy - I can't see a point to what are you actually saying, apart from you attempting to taunt me?
Well, it aint working m8, I'll come back and answer you posts each and every time, but it is getting a tad repetitive!
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Steve Howard
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| justin wrote: | | when we win we should get the manure supporters with us for the glory |
Yes, West Midlands is a lot nearer to their traditional home counties......
Cornwall and Devon
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JAFFA
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Steve you defiantly need to re read this posting again buddy. No taunts from me at all till you started the Manure bit and even then I have tried to keep everything on a even keel.
And what on earth Manure, Arse and the likes have to do with Spurs winning a cup is beyond me.
Never mind, I am out of this particular convo and will wait till the fullness proves me wrong or right.
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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| Steve Howard wrote: | | No worries m8, happy for you that it actually 'means' something to you... its far better that a team who actually 'wanted' it won it, rather that the likes of (disrespectful) Manure & Arse who put their reserves in all the time |
That was the first post where I mentioned 'manure' Jeff, and this was your response buddy.
| Quote: | Speaking as a fan of good football. Once Spurs settle and Ramos has brought in who he wants, that team WILL challenge for honors. Same as Villa will next year.
Steve, our teams have won "jack" this year. Something the Spurs fans can gloat about buddy....And rightfully so.....Is football not about the fans anymore? |
That was directly after I'd posted "happy for you that it actually 'means' something to you... its far better that a team who actually 'wanted' it won it" - I still don't see the connection... "is football not about the fans anymore"
But anyway, orget all that, the reason that Man U crop up in conversations.... there is one undeniable fact in football.
MONEY wins trophies... ultimately, despite short term league success or one-off cup victories, the spoils will normally go to the clubs who have traditionally spent money, and lots of money, to bring about thar success.
Now, in this instance, a high-rolling man u fan heaps praise on an underdog team, and tries to imply that "our teams have won JACK yet".
Ok, that is a fact, sorry, FACT, but exactly what does that statement prove? - Squat!
The Man U fan is quietly confident that his team won't have to wait too long for their next payback, sorry, 'bit of glory', it has already been purchased, oops, sorry, I meant 'planned for'.
Jeff, I know that you are genuinely happy for the spuds m8, but both you and I know that this, and perhaps the EUFA cup, is the current level of their aspirations, as they cannot match the financial clout of the top clubs.
I would actually go as far as to say, that I think its perhaps a little patronising towards teams like the spuds to pat them on the head and say "well done son, see, you 'can' win something" when its a trophy that your club clearly wasn't interested in one bit! - If you see what I mean? but hey, be my guest buddy!
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JAFFA
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Given up now Steve.
kind regards Jeff
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Steve Howard
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So I win then?
Wahey, Chelsea beats Man U (again )
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fullylove007
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| Steve Howard wrote: | So I win then?
Wahey, Chelsea beats Man U (again ) |
got the last word in again i see steve
i think the 3 of us can agree that money runs football and until this is stopped the clubs with the most amount of money will mainly always dominant.
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Steve Howard
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Ah, yes, but the thing is, you see, not all money that wins trophies is 'acceptable'.
The popular myth, spouted by man u fans, is that if it is 'accumulated wealth' earnt within football (largely by trampling over smaller teams in a ruthless fashion for decades, and the using that money to secure future success and dominance over those same teams in an equally ruthless and greedy manner) it's ok, but outside investment isn't ok.
At the end of the day, it matters not a jot where the money comes from, all, no, ALL clubs would love to have the wealth that QPR apparently now have, as it WILL bring them success if the guy ploughs enough in.
Is that wrong? No, not to my mind, all teams started equal at one time, and the only reason some have prospered over others is the money they gained at some point, for a variety of reasons.
Liverpool gained most of their success off the back of huge investment from Littlewoods, Arsenal did a lot of very dodgy dealings way back, and Man U have managed to get a wide plastic fan base.
What happened to those successful clubs of years gone by? Forest, Derby, Leeds etc? Where are they now?
SKINT, thats where they are, they overspent to try to buy their success, and when the money coming in didn't match that going out, they folded like a house of cards... No money, no success.
The truth is, clubs like QPR will rise to the fore on this external investment, money that is 'brought in' to the game, and teams like Man U will continue to earn their successes by steam-rollering less wealthy clubs, taking money out of their mouths and stifling them.
Which is better for true fans of football?
The Leeches - The long term domination and greed of the 'mighty few' who feed off the wealth and lifeblood of others, ala Man USA
or the short term success of a variety of clubs who - bringing countless millions into the game as they do so - seek to achieve that same parity and level of success?
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fullylove007
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So steve your saying that you dont agree with rich owners buying a club and bringing them success through putting aload of money in. But you agree with clubs that have made there own money through winning trophys.
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Steve Howard
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No no no, not at all... read it again m8, its the other way round actually...
Look to Scotland, and what has happened there with Celtic and Rangers.... I'm not overly keen on that!
Celtic and Rangers have monopolised things for however long, and its almost guaranteed that one of the two will win the cup, league or both, every single year, almost with fail.
United and Arsenal have threatned to do the same in the Premier League, and to my mind that is a very unhealthy situation. I think that Romans arrival has almost definitely changed things around entirely, and thank god for English football that it has!
Since his millions stopped these two 'totally' monopolising things, it has forced United to cough up more and more money to compete for 'their' title, and other investors have been attracted to the game to follow Romans lead. Billionaires are now crawling out of the woodwork to compete in the English game, and its starting to look a lot more healthy, with clubs like man city, portsmouth, QPR and Liverpool all getting in on the act, to name but a few.
There is nothing more boring than the stale and insipid monopolisation of a league, and thankfully, there is now a three horse race each year, maybe a four or five horse race soon, with no clear advantage to manure & Arse they will now be severely tested every year, and our game is much more exciting because of that.
You see, I am a true fan of football, and that means I want a good open contest, not monopolisation.
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