Ghost
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What size lead ?What size lead......
How do you go about choosing what size and shape to go for?
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richchappy
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to be honest i used to use quite big leads, but recently i have done a lot of short session fishin tryin to get one bite castin to showin fish etc, so i dropped down to try and avoid spookin em as much so its about 1.5oz normally, a nice pear lead as they are nice and condensed shape and cast well
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bigkipper
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fishing situation`s are what choses a lead for me, silt fishing i try and get away with as light as lead as possible and always use flat leads for this type of fishing, i don't want the lead to plug to deep in the silt so a lighter lead shouldn't go in to deep and what i lose in weight from the lead should be compensated by the silt on the take.
margin fishing were i can just lower the rig in i use as bigger lead as i can and put it on a lead clip so it is dumped straight away, for this i make my own gripper`s in 6oz, for most other work clay,gravel,slate and other hard bottom`s i will use leads around the 3oz mark, and manly pear shape unless I'm fishing on a ledge or on the side of a slope then i use gripper`s for this as well but in the 3 to 4oz bracket.
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Margin Master
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Most of the time a 1oz korda square pear, with a korda tail rubber over the swivel to make the whole set up safe.
When river fishing (in normal flow) or where a longer chuck is required a 1.5 korda square pear
When river fishing in a fast flow probably a 3-5 oz korda gripper.
When river fishing in an insane flow when I need 2x4oz grippers to just hold bottom (I have tried it) thats when its time to admit defeat and go home 
MM
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maple
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| Quote: | | margin fishing were i can just lower the rig in i use as bigger lead as i can and put it on a lead clip so it is dumped straight away, for this i make my own gripper`s in 6oz, |
sorry si , but why on earth would you use and dump six ounce leads for margin fishing 
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Craig Banks
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Sometimes the range and situation dictates what lead I choose but often it's down to what I think/know the majority of other anglers are using on the lake - I then opt for the opposite. ie if everyone's using heavy leads, I'll go for light and vice-versa. The same applies to running and fixed arrangements too.
This is a theme that I use for my angling - being different with bait application, rigs, areas etc works for me I find.
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bigkipper
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| maple wrote: | | Quote: | | margin fishing were i can just lower the rig in i use as bigger lead as i can and put it on a lead clip so it is dumped straight away, for this i make my own gripper`s in 6oz, |
sorry si , but why on earth would you use and dump six ounce leads for margin fishing |
it`s simple paul, carp will pick up leads and move them, 6oz leads are a lot harder to move without them hooking a carp, the big lead is used for it`s hooking ability over a lighter one i use them in the margin`s so as I'm not casting them, i only use 2.5 rod`s and thats some lead to chuck and I'm not brave enough, why dump them on the take. well i don't want 6oz of lead swinging around a carp`s head and the extra weight bouncing on the line trying to bounce the hook out during the fight (i use barbless) i have only started useing them this year. and so far so good. in clear water the lead can sometime`s still be seen on the bottom after a take. and can be retrieved to use again.
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maple
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yes i understand the theory behind it si  i was more concerned with the dumping of such big leads , into such small waters ,
infact (not a dig at you m8 ) i think there are far to many leads, needlessly dumped into our waterways......ticking timebomb me thinks .
i see a new thread out of this 
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bigkipper
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this is the only time i use lead clip`s paul i prefer inline`s i see what you mean about a time bomb, i do coat the leads but i don't know if this stop`s any of the toxin`s escaping ?. like i said i do get some back but not all  
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Ghost
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When it comes to leads I think so long about them I confuse myself.
Are they to just get your bait out ??
so i dropped down to try and avoid spookin em (bait out without spookin)
silt fishing i try and get away with as light as lead as possible ( bait out without burying the lead)
Are they to help you catch fish
Enough weight to help hook its self
So how important are they, will choosing the right lead make the difference between losing or banking a fish??
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Margin Master
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| Ghost wrote: | When it comes to leads I think so long about them I confuse myself.
Are they to just get your bait out ??
so i dropped down to try and avoid spookin em (bait out without spookin)
silt fishing i try and get away with as light as lead as possible ( bait out without burying the lead)
Are they to help you catch fish
Enough weight to help hook its self
So how important are they, will choosing the right lead make the difference between losing or banking a fish?? |
From my experience and observations I think using heavy leads can actually work against you.
I have witnessed fish in clear water from above doing me up left right and centre! I started off on 3oz leads then moved up to 5's, and I was still getting done by the fish, quite a lot of the time.
I eventually moved onto light leads 1.5's to be exact and on the 1.5's I have not seen a fish eject the bait, I have only seen them hook themselves 
I know this probably is not the case for everywhere and every situation there are lots of variables, but for my fishing I prefer the lightest lead I can get away with.
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Rabbit
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i use 2oz in-line flat pears for all my carp fishing, they will sit on ledges and the side of bar`s. i don't feel i need to use any other type of lead.
was thinking of just using a lead core leeder in the margin`s no lead on just the weight of the leeder will this work do you think. ??????
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matgreasley
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i used to go as light as possible even to the point of fishing no lead, now however, i think that bigger leads are essential, best is around 2oz in my mind, i have found that even the most effective of rigs can be rendered useless if theres no weight to pull the hook down, im certain my rig is spot on, i do a lot of watching the fish over my bait and ive never been 'done' with it, then last week, i needed to get my bait onto a gravel bar without spooking this fish, i got it out, got up the tree and waited, the fish went over, and the bait went in, i started to jump, but then stopped and watched, it just sat there, i was expected a full blown run, but no, it just sat there, spat out my bait, and carried on feeding, i put a lead on, and then caught that same fish.
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Margin Master
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| Rabbit wrote: |
was thinking of just using a lead core leeder in the margin`s no lead on just the weight of the leeder will this work do you think. ?????? |
I had a very good weekend once on 1/2 oz running leads and leadcore
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JAFFA
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| matgreasley wrote: | | i used to go as light as possible even to the point of fishing no lead, now however, i think that bigger leads are essential, best is around 2oz in my mind, i have found that even the most effective of rigs can be rendered useless if theres no weight to pull the hook down, im certain my rig is spot on, i do a lot of watching the fish over my bait and ive never been 'done' with it, then last week, i needed to get my bait onto a gravel bar without spooking this fish, i got it out, got up the tree and waited, the fish went over, and the bait went in, i started to jump, but then stopped and watched, it just sat there, i was expected a full blown run, but no, it just sat there, spat out my bait, and carried on feeding, i put a lead on, and then caught that same fish. |
Thinking angler at play here. 
kind regards Jeff
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buzzbomb
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I keep an assortment from splitshot to 5 oz, and while I used to use the bare minimum to keep my bait in place, I now use 3 oz almost exclusively. I bought 100 3 oz bell sinkers with swivels on them on ebay and hammer those out into pear shape and it cost half what buying them individually does.
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backlead
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What size lead......
How do you go about choosing what size and shape to go for?
What a ridiculous question.............are you lot THAT thick?
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Carper_Adam
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| backlead wrote: | What size lead......
How do you go about choosing what size and shape to go for?
What a ridiculous question.............are you lot THAT thick? |
No, but you clearly think your something special 
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carpioleads
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I tend to use mostly 3oz distance leads for all my fishing and very occasionally square dumpies for margin work for hooking purposes.
I use nearly all of my leads uncoated too apart from silkweed leads in the right situ.
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carpnation
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I swap size and shape depending on the variables I am fishing. At range heavy distance leads, margin heavy where I can.
Hooklink length can influence my choice a bit.
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bigkipper
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welcome to the forum carpnation 
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rocketeer
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the lead size and shape surely depends on ya fishing situation .... and what you feel comfy with .... like you wouldnt use 2oz lead in a fast river ... but ou would in a lake ... go with what ever is best on the day...tight lines
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whitey
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I go for leads shaped like a carp so it attracts other fish into the area .
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