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SIMON

Big common from down under

http://anglers.proboards23.com/in...amp;action=display&thread=629 -

Edit oops  you cant see the photo sorry !!

Its a common carp weighing in at 38lb 10oz was captured by Mark York of SCAC (Sydney Coarse Angling Club) at Parramatta Lake, I don't have date or time details but the fish was taken on sweetcorn & maggots .  


Bit of a lump taken down under here fellas - but not the greatest photo ever likely to grace the cover of Carp Addict !!!!

cheers Simon
Big Ron

Hi SIMON ....you have to be a member to look at the thread    

if you right click the picture on the thread and copy were its hosted ...then paste it here    that might work  
SIMON





Sorry for the mess around, my son helped me out  - here we are with the pics.
carpcruncher

shame that clown doesn't know how to handle and hold fish.    

cant believe he's sanding up over concrete.  Mwraahaha  Mwraahaha
whitey

Do yourself a favour and get an unhooking mat or some sort of protector to lay the fish on , never never stand up holding a fish for a photo get on your knees and hold it otherwise you're looking at a dead carp if it flips out your arms !!
the natural

Was the fish returned alive?
matgreasley

i was gonna say, id be surprised if the fish is alive there
Margin Master

I think the only anglers really into fish care are european anglers with the english being top of the tree.
I bet that mad aussie laid the fish on the concrete his standing on to unhook it  
The thought makes me shudder!
carpcruncher

Margin Master wrote:
I think the only anglers really into fish care are european anglers with the english being top of the tree.
I bet that mad aussie laid the fish on the concrete his standing on to unhook it  
The thought makes me shudder!


and then probably left it to die, im sure theres a no return rule for carp.  Mwraahaha  Mwraahaha  Mwraahaha  Mwraahaha
Scotfins

nice fish, shame about the captor  
Ghost

Mwraahaha
My thoughts was the same as Carpcruncher there’s just no need to stand with a carp unless its in a sling.
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im sure theres a no return rule for carp

I don’t think this rule is on all waters down OZ, just on some rivers I think?

Wonder if Simon can shine some light on that, if it’s a no return rule on that water?
JAFFA

I am led to believe that this carp was returned, in a country where carp are left to die and used as fertiliser. I actually say fair play to the captor and whilst fish care is paramount to us UK carpers, it is not always the case over the globe.

Lets not be to quick to condemn folks, as a mere generation or so ago, carp were killed and mounted as trophies, taken to the local butchers shop to be weighed and the list gos on  

Bow fishing in the US.......Illegal to return fish in Germany.......Tagging of fins in a lot of Europe...Vermin in a lot of countries....

Is standing up with a fish, with no unhooking mat, BUT returning the fish unharmed so bad really?  

kind regards Jeff
Ghost

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Is standing up with a fish, with no unhooking mat, BUT returning the fish unharmed so bad really?


Well you say “unharmed” Jeff, but who’s to say seconds after that photo was taken the carp didn’t flips out of his arms to his death?

If your intention is to go out to kill for food or sport so be it.
I think its far worse risking an injury or death to any fish that you not planning to kill.
SIMON

Ghost wrote:
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im sure theres a no return rule for carp

I don’t think this rule is on all waters down OZ, just on some rivers I think?

Wonder if Simon can shine some light on that, if it’s a no return rule on that water?


Not 100% sure on the ruling to 'return' fish alive to Aussie waters (rivers + lakes)

Pretty sure the 'law' as it applies to the transfering of live carp from one location to another carries huge fines ($)

Valid points Jaffa makes ref historical activities

There is a really tiny group of secret squirrel carp anglers (mainly ex UK carp anglers) across Oz who keep carp captures generally confined to private messages/emails because 'agency officials' have been known in the past to monitor forums for location reports and then target those waters for fish kill programs    
Carper_Adam

Im with Jeff on this one


I dont see anything wrong with what that guy is doing

theres no need for you to all jump on the " on dear god no unhooking mat " band wagon and slag the guy off

This isnt concerned with what goes on in the UK...its Australia where there are different cultures and attitudes towards fish care....for all you know this guy could have once bow fished until he was persuaded otherwise  cripes!


Sure, having an unhooking mat helps...but how many times in your past have you put down fish on anything other than an unhooking mat?

I've put down carp on loose gravel when i was a kid....and i can tell you i am 100% sure that there was never a single scratch on any of them, and they all went back right as rain......carp are pretty hardy and can withstand alot of abuse.


theres no need to be derogatory towards this guy just because he might not know any better?  


oh, and if you look closely, that might be a wet towel or something on the ground



Good angling to the captour  
Big Ron

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theres no need for you to all jump on the " on dear god no unhooking mat " band wagon and slag the guy off


cant rember how many fish I have caught before unhooking mats came out     they all went back safe    

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theres no need to be derogatory towards this guy just because he might not know any better?  


Totaly agree     dont forget they are classed as vermin over there   so its good he put in back  
Ghost

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“before” unhooking mats came out!!

So There’s no excuse for it now!!  

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theres no need to be derogatory towards this guy

Sorry Carper Adam, but im not going to pat him on the back!  

Hes a member of the Sydney Coarse Angling Club? You think they’d have a few rules on fish care?
JAFFA

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Hes a member of the Sydney Coarse Angling Club? You think they’d have a few rules on fish care?


Spooks your missing the point and by a long way buddy......

In Australia, carp are VIRMIN!!!!!!!.....Catch one and throw it on the bank....Fertiliser!!!!!

Carping is Australia is in a similar state to carping in the UK some 30 odd years ago. I am not 100% sure, but I would wager that unhooking mats are few and far between buddy. If at all  

I would rather see a carp being held, standing up and returned safely, than a carp being thrown aside, left to die and become fertiliser!

Education  Not condemnation  

Carping is many things to many folk and is totally different from country to country    

kind regards Jeff
Ghost

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Spooks your missing the point and by a long way buddy......


Noooooooo ..I just think we looking at it from different views!

I can understand your point about its better “him not using an unhooking mat and putting it back alive, than killing it” .. but not all Australia is like that now. Sydney Coarse Angling Club I believe is run by ex Brits?

Looking at that photo, I don’t see an Australia angler, I just see an angler. And its bad angling
Iv seen many photos like this of British anglers, again it’s not the fact the anglers British that makes him a bad angler, its his attitude to fish care.

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