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Mrmoo Site Supporter
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:38 am Post subject: What to do? |
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Hello you lot,its been a while,i have been racking my brains trying to decide what to do for the best so i thought i would put it out in the open and air my thoughts and concerns about a new approach to this stop start bait company of ours,
I am dubious about re-starting again purely because of fulltime work commitments and the toll it puts on myself both physically,mentally and financially,but was considering just going with one bait.A combination of moonfruit and the enzyme,which would offer the best of both worlds!I have not spoke to Pete about this and im sure he will have his say on the matter but would really like peoples opinion as to its viability,so please feel free to air your welcome opinions good or bad!
Regards,Moo 
_________________ KIBIK
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Big Ron Silver Member

Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 924
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Hi mate ........from what I can see you have put a lot of time and effort in to your bait company and its never going to be easy to compet with the big boys in the fishing world as they have it prity well to them selfs.
but there are a lot of smaller company out there and as long as they have a loyal costomer base they will keep ticking over.
I think you have to weigh up what you want in life and how much effort you want to put in to it, as trying to follow your dreams ( will come at a cost )
I think advise from otheres will not realy solve your problem as its only you who will know what price you are prepared to pay  _________________ Hope its a big one
Big Ron CCG BCSG BRFC
www.catfishgroup.co.uk
www.adventureangling.co.uk
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richchappy Zone Addict

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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could you just sell the basemix etc ready to roll, save you a lot of work,but dont know how dogey it is with enzymes etc, would be a way of doing it and reducing work load...
just get some poles in to roll it lol, cheap labour:D _________________ Lost and wandering |
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The Hunter's Moon New Member
Joined: 06 Jun 2007 Posts: 29
Location: A kentish valley
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Dean
I hope you are in better health these days
I don’t know if going down the one bait road will work as Mr Baitcraft is now finding out..
Big Ron's words seem to sum it up well.. only you will know…
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scotcarp Active Member

Joined: 25 Feb 2008 Posts: 85
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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only bought 5 kg from yourself just as i found out you were going to stop making the baits and the results that i had from the 5kg that i bought were probably the best i have had on any bait so i would be well chuffed if you were going to start up again dean as i am struggling as to what bait to go with this year but only you and pete can make that decision bud,is there no one that you can get to roll the baits for you,would take the pressure away from you a bit,anyhow what ever you decide all the best and a happy new year pal  |
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billy the fish Active Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 59
Location: stockport cheshire
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:05 pm Post subject: single bait |
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only pete and yourself can answer that problem, i thought all was going really well combining both buisnesses. what a tragic loss it would be to us all if you decided it was to much of a workload to make your excellent bait. if you only produced one bait, and i am sure with your combined bait knowledge that it would be stunning. i have been out of touch with the carp scene this year due to personal problems, and re-forming the rock band, so i hope you can keep keep going as i will be back this spring, and i certainly dont want to use a hyped up overpriced major bait bait company, i prefer the real thing. all the best moo, jimmy. _________________ sometimes being there is enough |
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billy the fish Active Member
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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nearly forgot dean, happy new year to pete and yourself. _________________ sometimes being there is enough |
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Carper_Adam zone mod

Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 755
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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Sell the recipe/partnership with someone fully committed to making the bussines work ? |
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Carper_Adam zone mod

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Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| richchappy wrote: | could you just sell the basemix etc ready to roll, save you a lot of work,but dont know how dogey it is with enzymes etc, would be a way of doing it and reducing work load...
just get some poles in to roll it lol, cheap labour:D |
First lot of enzymes are deactivated when the bait it boiled...the second lot start working afterwards i think
we dont want anymore people coming into the country rich, most people are screwed enough as it is right now ! |
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blondie New Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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hi dean.hope you are well mate. if you are up to it,why not stick with the one bait and size for now as i know a lot of people use or would like to use your bait .see how things go .maybe employ some one who you and pete trust to roll lthe bait for you.hope you make a full recovery and that things sort themselves out for the best.good luck in the future what ever you decide to do.tight lines.steve  |
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Rivertone New Member
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Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Dean,
I think it's right in saying it's what you thinks best for yourself for you to decide whether you want to carry on with this really, i can't see how us giving out our opinions can change anything in what your heart really wants to do.. I brought 50kg off you around may time to use on one of my syndicate waters and i can honestly say its been the best season so far for me on there since using the bait for the 1st time..i've had a couple of the low 30 plus commons that recide in the lake which i've been after for a couple of years along with most of the upper 20's and i had most of these fish by mid september so at least i knew i was using a bait they really enjoyed eating..if you and pete do carry on making baits even if it's only one mix you decide to carry on with i will certainly be buying more off you. |
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robvford Serial Spammer!

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Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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i think alot of people have summed it up pretty well already.
i also agree i hate paying for the overpriced rubbish they sell on the shelves!
you dont get the excellent service from the bigger companies as you do with the smaller privately owned ones and thats a big factor for alot of people. being able to actually talk to the matey that makes there bait. |
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billy the fish Active Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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could a moonzyme be on the way dean??? happy new year. _________________ sometimes being there is enough |
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PeteB Site Supporter
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Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Mate, as you know I have a very time consuming job... and I have literally no time to devote to a bait company other than ideas and recipes, you have the best bait available to anyone at this moment in time, it will beat anything if fished side by side, you know, you have seen it in action...
It will work, it will take time though... in today's economic climate everyone is suffering, even the big boys, the product is everything, you have achieved far more than we expected at the start, don't let it go, get A.N Other involved and continue.. Give me a call.......  _________________ Happy Carping
Pete
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billy the fish Active Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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great encouraging words pete, lets hope moo gets it sorted, by using someone who wants work, and whoom he can trust _________________ sometimes being there is enough |
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JAFFA Site Admin

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Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Rivertone wrote: | Hi Dean,
I think it's right in saying it's what you thinks best for yourself for you to decide whether you want to carry on with this really, i can't see how us giving out our opinions can change anything in what your heart really wants to do.. I brought 50kg off you around may time to use on one of my syndicate waters and i can honestly say its been the best season so far for me on there since using the bait for the 1st time..i've had a couple of the low 30 plus commons that recide in the lake which i've been after for a couple of years along with most of the upper 20's and i had most of these fish by mid september so at least i knew i was using a bait they really enjoyed eating..if you and pete do carry on making baits even if it's only one mix you decide to carry on with i will certainly be buying more off you. |
Hi Tone and happy new to ya buddy
kind regards Jeff _________________ jeff@carp-addict.co.uk
AABB, anglers against bait boats. |
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Mrmoo Site Supporter
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Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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A decision has been made that we are on the lookout for a reputable company that can exclusively roll and sell our baits.They will be the only distributors of these throughout the uk and europe,so if you know of anyone that may fit the bill or is interested then please let me know.We need a tomake this work as we believe our baits have enormous potential,thanks,Dean  _________________ KIBIK
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saul Active Member

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Carper_Adam zone mod

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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Mrmoo wrote: | A decision has been made that we are on the lookout for a reputable company that can exclusively roll and sell our baits.They will be the only distributors of these throughout the uk and europe,so if you know of anyone that may fit the bill or is interested then please let me know.We need a to make this work as we believe our baits have enormous potential,thanks,Dean  |
Hi Dean
Would probably have to be a company that is fairly successful, as a small company probably wouldnt want to sell a bait that is better than theirs ! ?
I really hope you make this work as im gagging to get my hands on some more enzyme ! |
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Rivertone New Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Hi Tone and happy new to ya buddy
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Thanks jeff and all the best to you for 2009 mate...
Great news Dean...hope everything works out for you.
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